Mandela Defends Loyalty to Castro, Gadhafi

CAPE TOWN, South Africa (AP) — South African President Nelson Mandela today praised President Clinton for his "correct instincts" on international matters and told South Africans who criticize his own ties to Cuba and Libya to "go and throw themselves into a pool."

With Clinton at his side in a joint news conference, Mandela also lectured the United States on making peace with its enemies.

"The United States, as the willful leader of the world, should set an example to all of us," Mandela said. "One of the best ways of doing so is to call upon its enemies to say, 'Let's sit down and talk peace."'

Mandela, who met privately with Clinton before facing reporters, also offered a vigorous defense of his loyalties to Iran, Cuban leader Fidel Castro and Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi, all of whom supported him in his battles against South Africa's apartheid regime.

The first U.S. president to visit this former pariah nation, Clinton said it is in America's "profound interest to support the positive changes in Africa's life." He told Mandela: "I am deeply pleased that we are committed to harnessing the winds of change together."

The leaders spoke outside the 200-year-old Tuynhuis government building, which houses Mandela's offices, and then flew by helicopter to Robben Island. Arm-in-arm they visited Section B, prison cell No. 5, the cramped, gray cell where Mandela was jailed for 18 years in his struggle against apartheid.

"Thank God that the person who occupied the cell was able to live all those years in that way without having his heart turned to stone, without giving up on his dream for South Africa," Clinton said.

Mandela called Clinton's visit a "high water mark" in U.S.-African relations, and said he respects Clinton and first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton — "whatever mistakes they have made" — for trying to improve those relations.

"President Clinton, as well as the first lady, Hillary, they have the correct instincts on the major international questions facing the world today," Mandela said. "For that reason, I hold him ... in high respect."

The two leaders left unresolved the question of South African support for Clinton's plan to build a United Nations-led peacekeeping force for Africa. Mandela said he supports the premise, but could not participate in military exercises under outside command.

"I certainly would never put my troops under somebody who does not belong to Africa," Mandela said.

While unapologetic for political alliances that Clinton does not share, Mandela did issue a call for democratic reform in nations "where there are no popular institutions at all but they are able to look after their people."

Mandela noted that, just as today he received Clinton, he has welcomed Castro, Gadhafi and former Iranian President Hashemi Rafsanjani, and will remain loyal to them.

"We should not abandon those who helped us in the darkest hour of the history of this country," Mandela said. "They gave us the resources for us to conduct the struggle (against apartheid) and to win.

"Those South Africans who have berated me for being loyal to our friends, literally they can go and throw themselves into a pool," he said.

Clinton said he sought Mandela's advice on Nigeria, a major supplier of U.S. oil wracked by human rights abuses under the autocratic rule of Gen. Sani Abacha.

Clinton also backed away from his administration's insistence that Abacha completely relinquish power. He said today that he would seek to push Abacha toward "genuine democracy and respect for human rights," starting with elections and the release of political prisoners.

"If he stands for election, we hope he will stand as a civilian," Clinton said. "There are many military leaders who have taken over chaotic situations in African countries but have moved toward democracy. That can happen in Nigeria, ... sooner rather than later I hope."

Clinton and Mandela tackled a large agenda built around a burgeoning trade partnership they hope will send ripples of prosperity through other African economies.

Tonight, they will attend a state dinner at the posh Vergelegen Wine Estates, site of several state dinners, including one for Britain's Queen Elizabeth II.

Mandela will present Clinton with South Africa's highest honor, the Order of Good Hope — the same tribute Mandela gave to Gadhafi.

"The president will accept that in the great spirit that it's given," White House spokesman Mike McCurry said.

Today's events marked the only official state visit of Clinton's 12-day African tour. He will spend Saturday in Johannesburg and dedicate a commercial center named for the late Commerce Secretary Ron Brown, an advocate for trade with Africa, before heading to Botswana.

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